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Sonic Drift in PAL = no?
« on: November 29, 2011, 03:38:37 pm »
Hallo! I own a copy of Sonic Mega Collection Plus (PS2 PAL) and I love playing Sonic Drift. I'm not bad at the game myself and I would love to compete, but when I checked the competition rules it turns out you can't play a PAL version of the game. I was just curious as to why not. Explanation?
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Re: Sonic Drift in PAL = no?
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2011, 03:44:27 pm »
The rules are saying that you can't consciously switch a ROM of the game over to PAL settings in an emulator, as it changes the speed of the in-game timer. To the best of my knowledge, official releases are allowed in all cases except Sonic Genesis (which changes the physics of the game), Sonic Jam (which has conditions on it), Sonic & Knuckles Collection (also conditioned), and Sonic CD's 2011 release (which we'll add rules for when it releases outside of GameStop's tablets).

tl;dr you can submit unless somebody corrects me.
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Re: Sonic Drift in PAL = no?
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2011, 03:49:56 pm »
Yaay! I can now submit! (I mean, after all, 'you will submit', right guys?)
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Re: Sonic Drift in PAL = no?
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2011, 03:55:30 pm »
How come this topic's been read 11 times already and I only created it about 20 minutes ago?!
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Re: Sonic Drift in PAL = no?
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2011, 06:25:14 pm »
I agree with Thorn.  I'd much rather have separate charts for the 2011 remake of SCD.
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Re: Sonic Drift in PAL = no?
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2011, 09:03:35 am »
Quote from: Thorn on November 29, 2011, 03:44:27 pm
The rules are saying that you can't consciously switch a ROM of the game over to PAL settings in an emulator, as it changes the speed of the in-game timer. To the best of my knowledge, official releases are allowed in all cases except Sonic Genesis (which changes the physics of the game), Sonic Jam (which has conditions on it), Sonic & Knuckles Collection (also conditioned), and Sonic CD's 2011 release (which we'll add rules for when it releases outside of GameStop's tablets).

It is a case of replicating what is possible on console. Games that only came out through NTSC/60Hz cannot use a PAL/50Hz setting on an emulator, and vice versa (although the vice versa would be stupid for speedrunning >_>) simply because it isn't possible through actual carts/consoles.

The best way to know if it's illegal, is to time yourself in real time, and compare it with the ingame timer. Do it on a long level (Scrap Brain - Red) for best results. If you get a difference of more than a second, then you shouldn't submit.

Also i've heard no discussion on CD'11 yet. Why won't it be allowed? The engine is exactly the same isn't it?
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Re: Sonic Drift in PAL = no?
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2011, 01:25:41 pm »
^ No, the engine was written by Christian "The Taxman" Whitehead, a member of the fangaming community (see Sonic Nexus) and a Tech Member at Sonic Retro. The 2011 version also allows things such as Sonic 2 spin dash and Tails in levels.
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Re: Sonic Drift in PAL = no?
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2011, 10:14:40 pm »
^Oh so it's actual Sonic 2's spindash. I thought it was just a visual effect. So are there going to be new charts, or are we just going to skip over this remake/port?
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Re: Sonic Drift in PAL = no?
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2011, 03:45:13 pm »
Quote from: Luxray on November 30, 2011, 10:14:40 pm
^Oh so it's actual Sonic 2's spindash. I thought it was just a visual effect. So are there going to be new charts, or are we just going to skip over this remake/port?

Someone, quick!  Get separate charts for Sonic CD XBLA!
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Re: Sonic Drift in PAL = no?
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2011, 03:46:56 pm »
Quote from: BecauseWarAnvil on December 01, 2011, 03:45:13 pm
Quote from: Luxray on November 30, 2011, 10:14:40 pm
^Oh so it's actual Sonic 2's spindash. I thought it was just a visual effect. So are there going to be new charts, or are we just going to skip over this remake/port?

Someone, quick!  Get separate charts for Sonic CD XBLA!

Can we at least wait for the game to get released first?
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Re: Sonic Drift in PAL = no?
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2011, 01:58:56 pm »
Sonic 2 SD in my SCD?

HELLS YEAH!
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